For those of you not sufficiently versed in Yankee stoppiste politics, Justin Raimondo is an extreme-right cultist and denizen of obscure Republican Party factions, an admirer of the American fascist Charles Lindburgh, an enthusiastic trafficker in the libel that the Jooz had advance warning about 911. Like his Canadian counterpart, Eric Margolis, Raimondo is a contributor to Pat Buchanan’s American Conservative magazine.
I raise this for the benefit of those of you who watched the interview and might have sensibly concluded that Raimondo was a run-of-the mill windbag from the American “anti-war” Left.
I raise this also to illustrate an objective condition of these struggles: the “anti-war” left is every bit as much our enemy as the far right.
Perusing the comments left on anti-war.com’s blog post about the exchange is highly entertaining. They weren’t too impressed with their man’s performance, evidently.
“It looks like you could have done a better job than he [Raimondo] managed. Why send someone who gets tongue tied and looks like a dimwit?”
“Wow! What a fantastically uninformed talking head this site managed to send. Christopher Hitchens, in every way short of drawing a bucket of soapy water, mopped the floor with little Justin. Poor Mr. Raimondo’s researched apparently didn’t extend much beyond watching a few Michael Moore flicks, and his preparation seemed limited to dressing himself and maybe eating lunch.”
“Justin is a writer not a debater. Maybe a commenter, but definitely not a debater. He comes across as shallow, uniformed and at loss for words. If he debated as good as he often writes, he would have ripped Hitchens a new one.”
“I would agree that Justin Raimundo’s talent, that comes over so well in his contributions for antiwar.com and antiwar radio, is not entirely captured by this type of softball fluffy general questions. But at least he didn’t do as poorly as C. Hicthens who came across as completely ignorant.”
“When one is going toe to toe with Hitchens, one has to be fully prepared to deflect one’s own groin area from his punches. No matter how much he’s had to drink, he never seems to miss his favorite target: Below the belt.”
“At least you stood up to that prick. That’s what counts. A few points. First, relax. Every TV appearance is not the end of the world. If you need to loosen up a bit, have a drink before you go on. God knows Hitchens has a few. Second, don’t acknowledge your opponent’s attacks or try to attack yourself. Third, bring some note cards. It’s a tad hard to remember facts when your fight or flight mechanism is active. Don’t sweat it, you’ll get him next time.”
in disputation with a dipshit amateur demagogue, weirdo minor celebrity U.S cult leader clearly refers to a single individual. However, if you want to believe–in the manner of conspiracy theorists and other paranoid fantasists–that it refers to Khan instead of Raimondo, that is your affair. Just don’t expect an answer.
Thursday 21 August 2008 at 19:38
See also, Hitch in uber-glasses-mode in (self-parodying role) book trailer: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/08/the-brad-meltze.html
Works for me.
Thursday 21 August 2008 at 19:40
Do any of you fuckers actually bother taking notice before you post comments?
http://drinksoakedtrotsforwar.com/2008/08/19/trailer/
Thursday 21 August 2008 at 19:43
Feck. I try new Berman for double or nothink: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=9bc4033e-c412-426c-9907-78d4e5d72abf
Thursday 21 August 2008 at 20:28
For those of you not sufficiently versed in Yankee stoppiste politics, Justin Raimondo is an extreme-right cultist and denizen of obscure Republican Party factions, an admirer of the American fascist Charles Lindburgh, an enthusiastic trafficker in the libel that the Jooz had advance warning about 911. Like his Canadian counterpart, Eric Margolis, Raimondo is a contributor to Pat Buchanan’s American Conservative magazine.
I raise this for the benefit of those of you who watched the interview and might have sensibly concluded that Raimondo was a run-of-the mill windbag from the American “anti-war” Left.
I raise this also to illustrate an objective condition of these struggles: the “anti-war” left is every bit as much our enemy as the far right.
Thursday 21 August 2008 at 21:36
Perusing the comments left on anti-war.com’s blog post about the exchange is highly entertaining. They weren’t too impressed with their man’s performance, evidently.
“It looks like you could have done a better job than he [Raimondo] managed. Why send someone who gets tongue tied and looks like a dimwit?”
“Wow! What a fantastically uninformed talking head this site managed to send. Christopher Hitchens, in every way short of drawing a bucket of soapy water, mopped the floor with little Justin. Poor Mr. Raimondo’s researched apparently didn’t extend much beyond watching a few Michael Moore flicks, and his preparation seemed limited to dressing himself and maybe eating lunch.”
“Justin is a writer not a debater. Maybe a commenter, but definitely not a debater. He comes across as shallow, uniformed and at loss for words. If he debated as good as he often writes, he would have ripped Hitchens a new one.”
“I would agree that Justin Raimundo’s talent, that comes over so well in his contributions for antiwar.com and antiwar radio, is not entirely captured by this type of softball fluffy general questions. But at least he didn’t do as poorly as C. Hicthens who came across as completely ignorant.”
“When one is going toe to toe with Hitchens, one has to be fully prepared to deflect one’s own groin area from his punches. No matter how much he’s had to drink, he never seems to miss his favorite target: Below the belt.”
“At least you stood up to that prick. That’s what counts. A few points. First, relax. Every TV appearance is not the end of the world. If you need to loosen up a bit, have a drink before you go on. God knows Hitchens has a few. Second, don’t acknowledge your opponent’s attacks or try to attack yourself. Third, bring some note cards. It’s a tad hard to remember facts when your fight or flight mechanism is active. Don’t sweat it, you’ll get him next time.”
Thursday 21 August 2008 at 23:11
Hegel identifies men such as Justin Raimondo as “world historic cunts”.
He is:
An antisemite … check
A Saddamite … check
A Milosevicist … check
Supporter of Imperial Japanese fascism and militarism and ‘thinks’ it would all have turned out for the better if Japan had defeated the Yanks … check
9/11 conspiracy theorist … check
A plain and simple racist … check
Supporter of Russian and Orthodox chauvinism and imperialism … check
Hegel was correct. Hegel also said that such cunts should be shoved in a landfill site (and if Hegel didn’t say that then he should have).
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Justin_Raimondo
Saturday 23 August 2008 at 14:55
[nobody said he was]
Sunday 24 August 2008 at 8:11
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Sunday 24 August 2008 at 10:21
in disputation with a dipshit amateur demagogue, weirdo minor celebrity U.S cult leader clearly refers to a single individual. However, if you want to believe–in the manner of conspiracy theorists and other paranoid fantasists–that it refers to Khan instead of Raimondo, that is your affair. Just don’t expect an answer.
Sunday 24 August 2008 at 16:34
Wow, Raimondo comes off like a fucking retard. Unbelievable ignorance! Typical bay area shite!