Don’t mention the Jews comrade

by Will, 19 August 2008

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The ‘S’ ‘W’ “P’ — the thick pack of evil, vile tossers — verily so it is, I can feel my hat now tilting at an acute angle that endangers its position atop my heed. That, of course, precedes illness of thoughts towards other mammalian subjects on my part.

Criticism dealing with this content is criticism in a hand-to-hand fight, and in such a fight the point is not whether the opponent is a noble, equal, interesting opponent, the point is to strike him.

Comments

  1. Handsome Dan

    They also might want to learn the difference between the plural and posessive form of the noun (”Nazi’s”).

    Just saying, like.

  2. contested-terrain

    Wouldn´t want to alienate the anti-zionists.

  3. SP

    Holocaust victims revised down from millions to thousands.

  4. Will

    Mr Onions
    http://ollysonions.blogspot.com/2008/08/smash-holocaust-deniers.html

  5. Duncan Money

    They are also a bunch of liars.

    Despite showing no interest at all in events in Nottingham and ignoring the local Notts Stop the BNP campaign, to the extent that they called for a protest rally two hours after the local campaign called it then claimed that was what the local group really wanted, the SWP/UAF have now claimed the rally was entirely their intiative.

    A lively and militant demo of over 500 Unite Against Fascism activists took to the streets of Codnor, Derbyshire, to oppose the Nazi BNP’s Red, White and Blue festival, on Saturday 16 August.

    UAF mobilised a large number of local trade unions and anti-racist groups.

    I mean, they must know that this is not the truth so they are doing this on purpose.

  6. Ann

    Contested terrain, surely you mean Islamo-fascists and other vile antisemitic scum, the SWP’s natural bedfellows.

  7. Chris

    The holocaust is like 9/11 - It happened!

  8. Will

    No mention of Nazi antiziganism and associated extermination efforts either by stupid as fuck, students waving placards snivelling tosspots.

    They must hate the Roma people also. The stinking racist swuppie scum.

  9. Richard

    Cheers Will
    http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=2055

  10. Nearly Oxfordian

    [silly and evil swivel-eyed loon from HP Sauce has arrived. The disgusting rightwing piece of shit also popped up in the comments at Shiraz Swamp yesterday insisting that Israel owns all of the land from the Jordan to the sea. This particular cretin also has it in for the ‘blacks’. I would just have it sealed in a plastic bag and dumped in a landfill site. End of]

  11. Will

    Excellent comment by my mate Jane on the AWL post:

    “Presumably the SWP will soon apologise for their political error - it was a stupid mistake. Not least from their point of view because it invites the type of scrutiny the SWP would rather do without. The SWP defend themselves against charges of anti-semitism by pointing to their record in fighting fascism. They dont want this sort of slip to become a habit - it undermines their cover story.
    That such a slip was possible does indeed say a lot about the SWP. It makes sense, in that the conditions are right, for some SWPers to be unable to bring themselves to mention Jewish deaths. For them the holocaust is irrelevant to the middle east today - except for providing the Nazi-Zionist amalgam that they use so effctively to bait Jews. It isnt possible to adequately understand Zionism and Israel without appreciating the impact of the holocaust. But the SWP line is premised on a sharp separation.(And indeed on a line that Jewiish immigration to Palestine should not have been allowed)
    The SWP’s position on Israel is a form of holocaust minimisation - its not totally surprising that some comrades, possibly young, zealous comrades keen to display their anti-zionism jumped over the leadership’s head into holocaust denial.”

  12. Shuggy

    First comment on the AWL website suggests that the failure to mention the small matter of the attempt to exterminate Europe’s Jews was ‘a slip’. Some ’slip’. Failing to mention Jehovah’s Witnesses might fall into that category. I’m sure this marks me out as v. un-PC but despite having a degree in history and a post-graduate certificate in education which included an elective on teaching the Holocaust, I had to look ‘LGBT’ up. Hitherto, I had been unaware that it had been the ‘transgender’ community that had been disappearing up the chimneys by the million - sorry, thousands.

  13. Will

    Good stuff in this comment at Engage by Saul.

    “…the SWP know exactly what they are doing. Realising that they have nothing to offer for a revivial of a serious left politics, they have been reduced to appealing to the most base and reactionary elements in what they believe to be their “constituency”.

    And, if they consider that constituency (or a part of that constituency) to be “Islam” or “Muslims”, not only is that a gross insult to both Islam and Muslims, but also replicates exactly the “Daily Express”, “Daily Mail” racist stereotype of Muslims as antisemitic and anti-democratic. In so doing, they have finally shifted from being a “party of the masses” to a party of the mob.”

    Truefact.

    And as another commenter makes the point…

    the swuppie cunts and shitheads have now

    …”adopted antisemitism as a political tactic and as a political strategy.”

    Truefact.

    Note the proper use of the word antisemitism by the way… not anti-Semitism.

    Just saying like.

  14. Will

    Just saying like — but meaning it like as well.

    http://www.gentheoryrubbish.com/2008/08/again_just_saying_like.html

  15. Herve DuChat

    I am, in principle, a diehard socialist. BUT….I cannot associate with blatantly anti-Semitic individuals and organizations, who deny the significance, scope and impact of the Holocaust.
    You SWP members are losing more people than you are gaining by these tactics.
    Shame, shame!

  16. SP

    I speed read Jane’s comment (reproduced above) late last night and thought she was too charitable. I formed this view because of her use of “mistake” and “slip” and because, like Shuggy, I think this is far from an accidental omission.

    It is however clearly a “political error”, for which they may or may not apologise, probably the latter on a guess , but there is more to it than that.

    The Holocaust and 6 million Jewish victims are frankly inseparable in the common psyche, let alone amongst the “political cognoscenti”. It is not possible that this unique, alternative description could be arrived at without thought and calculation. Rank political accommodation to their current swamp dwelling co-habitees goes some, but not all of the way to explain it,.

    As Will indicates the Roma omission clearly indicates a casual disregard for the excluded. There is more here however. At the very least it says “we do not care if we offend Jewish anti fascists” moreover “we do not want to attract, engage, work with or politically relate to Jews who have not self defined themselves as Socialist”. Contrast this to all their other “broad group” work and arrive at a conclusion - it is not a pretty one.

    At the height of the ANL/RAR this would, of course, have been inconceivable.

  17. Mark Gardner

    SWP has always regarded Holocaust (and antisemitism) as something that should be gauged by its (supposed) utility to Evil Zionism.

    This leads them to some odd conclusions, the most obvious one being how the industrialised mass murder of European Jewry (and preceding factors such as Evian Conference where rest of world turned its back) shows that Jews do NOT need a state of their own, and anyone who says otherwise is a racist in league with antisemites.

  18. Nearly Oxfordian

    [as a goose on stilts wearing a bow tie]

  19. Nearly Oxfordian

    [Paines Hill, Steeple Aston]

    [[mad staring eyes … and definitely a bow tie on supervised daytrips]]

  20. the shy taxonomist

    Shouldn’t that be ’swivel-eyed far-right zionist goose on stilts wearing a bow tie on supervised day trips’?

    It’s ours … Precious … from the Jordan to the sea … God gives us present … he swear on the Precious … nasty Palestinianses steals it from us … Precious … orcses … we hates orcses … yes, Precious… they are pro Blackses and pro Arabses … filthy, filthy orcses … Precious.

  21. Dectora

    [illiterate scrawl — politically speaking like]

  22. Barbara Meinhoff

    Absolutely astonishing

    Although i’m not surprised that the SWP are now claiming all the credit for organising the opposition in the first place.

    Some gobshite a couple of years ago tried to claim all the credit for the work done in calling for a police inquiry etc in the aftermath of the death of Stephen Lawrence, rather than his heartbroken parents.

  23. Abdul Alhazred

    The tragedy is that these racists are monopolising the opposition to the BNP for their own devious purposes and alienating anyone decent. UAF is riddled with SWP to the extent it is just another “front”. People should set up alternative structures and deliberately exclude these bastards.