Decentism – the cultural equivalent of heat death
by Jura Watchmaker, 10 April 2008
[Top part of this post - in italics - added onto this post by Will]
Pictured: a user of clever sounding words that don’t actually say anything of substance; purely verbal; he has his own iconography (or otherwise known as silly little scrawls) - the earnest look, the bookish appearance and that is what his picture intends to cultivate. It embraces the elitism of the academy and one who is really good at artificial earnestness and displays of his ‘weighty’ nature. Whatever — carry on… utter, utter fuckwit.
I appear to have wasted a considerable amount of time yesterday arguing the toss with centrists over at Bob from Brockley’s gaff. The subject of debate was Marko Attila Hoare’s silly diagram and various responses to it, including those of the Fat Man and myself.
Not only are Hoare’s arguments and the rhetorical devices he employs absurd, he is such a humourless bore.
One thing that stands out in Hoare’s post is his use of the term “homogenous citizenship”, when defending his vision of an egalitarian society. Homogenous? Hoare’s support for an “ultra-liberal immigration policy” aside, this reeks of the aculturalism that I associate with Burkean liberal-conservatism. The last thing I want to see is a homogeneous society. It would be the social equivalent of thermodynamic heat death.
There are other issues I have with Hoare’s post, including the display of what is for an historian a shocking ignorance of the struggle for enfranchisement of the working class in western societies. But I suspect that others in the house will have something to say on such matters. I shall conclude with a comment on Hoare’s frankly laughable characterisation of the diverse community of writers that is the Drink-Soaked Trots.
Pretty much the only things we have in common apart from a commitment to human emancipation, and in some cases at least a fondness for the water of life, are a certain robustness of approach and an unwillingness to suffer fools gladly. I define my comrades by their possession of such human qualities, and not, within reason, their professed political ideology.
Thursday 10 April 2008 at 23:26
Absolutely - can’t say I recognised myself in his description. In any event, I think he rather missed the point of Peter’s ‘Paines abroad but Burkes at home’ line. I understood it to be something like this: Nick Cohen has a nice line about lefties who’s commitment to human rights stops at Heathrow. True enough. But again there’s those who’s commitment doesn’t appear to start until Heathrow. I rather thought that was the point Peter was making and I think a lot of people heard the ring of truth when they read it - although I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’ve got his meaning wrong.
And yes, that stupid diagram - honestly!
Thursday 10 April 2008 at 23:50
Hoare’s shit is
hardlynot worth responding to. It reads like a post on HP Sauce that has developed herpes in the gob and anus. Drivel piles upon shit. Stick to the Balkans history Hoare — you fucking political and philosophical cretin.PS. He seems not to have cottoned onto the fact that Peter is a part of the DSTPFW set-up. Again — a fucking cretin.
PPS. Even though I say it is not worth responding to I look forward to Peter’s demolition of the crap in question.
PPPfuckingess — be very ashamed Mr Glavin that you have (still do?) fall for this cunt’s shit.
Those who are unwilling to criticize liberalism and capitalism should shut the fuck up about fascism. They have nothing to say of worth. Stamp them into the ground.
Friday 11 April 2008 at 1:13
Forgot to say…he’s also ignorant of economics and economic history.
The thick cunt. How the fuck do these fuckers hold down jobs in academia? Anyone know? I’d like a fucking cushie number like that myself.
Friday 11 April 2008 at 1:23
Fuck it — another comment.
‘Centrist” — I fucking despise any cunt and cunts like them that congregate around the same assumptions/ideology and pish that describe themselves as such, that I’ve run out of words to describe the fuckers just now.
fuck it — this will have to do at the moment.
Any fucker who describes themselves as a ‘centrist’ is quite obviously:
1) a fascist
2) a moron
3) a-political
4) thicker than a moron
5) scum without a shred of self awareness.
6) only worth pissing on.
7) a nihilist
I am getting to the point now where I am ready to arm myself and retire to a fortified arena — anyone who comes near me will be shot to shit!!!
Friday 11 April 2008 at 8:32
The diagram perfectly reflected the written material that it illustrated. i.e. it wasn’t very good.