As night follows day …
by hakmao, 26 November 2007
… So does violence and mayhem follow the ideology espoused by the criminals Irving and Griffin. The Times reports that Oxford is in ‘lockdown’ this evening ahead of the Irving-Griffin circus at the Oxford Union.
[C]olleges today sent their students e-mails warning them to stay indoors during the protest. Students fear that a counter-demonstration by far-right activists could set off scuffles.
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Students said there was anger today that colleges had failed to press the union to cancel the debate, and that their only action appeared to be sending out e-mails warning of violence.
Keren Bagon, from Somerville College, who is planning to take part in the protest tonight, said: “Individual colleges have sent out warnings to students saying that there is a strong chance that it might turn violent and warning people not to go into town. People are worried that extremist protesters are going to come and launch counter demonstrations, and that it could turn violent.”
Don’t go out tonight–the Fash rule the streets of Oxford. What a jolly game the Tarquins and Penelopes are having at the Oxford Union.
Graeme at Hocemo Li Na Kafu? has another excellent post up: Sixty years ago we fought fascism with rifles and bombs, now we do it with a vigourous chinwag over cheese and port.
Monday 26 November 2007 at 20:15
Their commitment to free speech is exposed as a commitment to court controversy. They don’t like free speech when it makes the fascists angry.
Monday 26 November 2007 at 20:47
It’s worse than that. These dilettantes live in a world where the fascists are the great defenders of liberal values and it’s the anti-fascists who are against liberty. Scum, the lot of them.
Monday 26 November 2007 at 21:05
Spiked online has some hilarious articles up at the moment — here’s a game — guess the ‘line’. No peeking first mind.
Monday 26 November 2007 at 21:42
Spiked online — here’s a game — guess the ‘line’.
Are there extra brownie points for kiddy fiddling fash?
Monday 26 November 2007 at 22:12
The Tarquins and Penelopes of Oxford are revolting.
Monday 26 November 2007 at 22:49
Follow The Shuggmeister
http://modies.blogspot.com/2007/11/free-speech-and-fascists.html
Monday 26 November 2007 at 23:12
I am neither a Tarquin nor a Penelope thank you very much - not everyone in Oxford was born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
But it is strange that the very same people who lauded Columbia University’s invitation to Ahmedinejad are now rioting on the streets. Even George Galloway was here bellowing himself hoarse. And from what I could see the ‘far-right counter-protest’ is just a figment of the media’s very lurid imagination.
Monday 26 November 2007 at 23:36
According to the ever reliable Daily Mash
So that’s all right then.
Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 0:10
Mustafa;
“I am neither a Tarquin nor a Penelope thank you very much - not everyone in Oxford was born with a silver spoon in their mouth.”
But everyone born with a silver spoon in their mouth was born in … oh shit - that won’t work — never mind.
“But it is strange that the very same people who lauded Columbia University’s invitation to Ahmedinejad are now rioting on the streets.”
Rioting? Did I miss something?
Yes it is strange of these fuckwits…that, however, changes nothing as to the issue at hand.
Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 0:43
Rioting? Did I miss something?
Yep, got quite colourful at one point. Difficult to tell standing with the masses, but rumour was some damage to the Union piano and President’s chair.
Yes it is strange of these fuckwits…that, however, changes nothing as to the issue at hand
Agreed, but once you tolerate Holocaust denial from one nutjob, it’s only a short journey to the next one. Sunny Hundal take note.
Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 0:47
X
love you kidda!
The union piano you say! Fuck me! They must have went aaal radgie like! And that’s the last exclamation mark you get from me tonight.
Oh fuck it — here’s another one…
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Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 10:54
What the hell. Might as well pile on.
The best I’ve read so far on this subject is Deb Lipstadt, an authority not just on the historical truth of the holocaust, but on what a fraud and a liar Irving is, and what it’s like to really take him on, in a courtroom, twice:
http://tinyurl.com/2xs6hg
Follow that link and you can read her essay in Spiked from last July without having to visit the Spiked site, even. Graeme’s got it right as well, and follow Will’s advice to follow Shuggy through to the Gadgie, a true marksman on this question.
Lipstadt makes the necessary distinction between protecting speech and not protecting incitement, I think. This is how we handle it in Canuckistan:
http://tinyurl.com/2rc2su
Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 14:51
Automatic guns are for sissies. Thought I’ll let you know.
Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 15:03
Automatic guns are for sissies.
And lasses — and I’m a lass.
Tuesday 27 November 2007 at 17:39
http://ollysonions.blogspot.com/2007/11/embarrassment-at-oxford-union-free.html